Releasing Repressed Anger & Embracing Radical Authenticity
Featuring Po-Hong Yu
You big mad, aren't you? Aren't you? Are you? Am I? Do you even know if you're mad or not? Do you know if repressed anger might be holding you back from capturing all of the abundance that should in fact be coming your way?
In this episode, I have the pleasure of talking with Po Hong Yu all about how to get into your body and use it as a guide to pinpoint how to release repressed anger that repressed anger that is keeping you from reaching your fullest potential.
If you think that you have more to do and capture and live and experience in life than what you are being blocked from right now, then, my friend, this episode is for you.
Key Topics
[00:02:04] Radical authenticity and rebirth in entrepreneurship
[00:11:49] Po-Hong shares stories of abandonment wounds, body disassociation, rape, trauma, and her healing journey
[00:13:45] Seeking therapy, struggling with numbness and sexual issues
[00:16:54] How Po-Hong overcame addiction and increased aliveness
[00:29:28] Po-Hong's Taoist somatic techniques for using Yin energy to alchemize and clear anger
[00:32:05] How to recognize if your unconscious anger is causing you mental, physical, and financial harm
[00:43:17] The importance of understanding different manifestations of anger
About Po-Hong Yu
Po-Hong Yu is an Emotional Alchemist, Somatic Healer, Medicine Woman, and the host of the Tao of Po Podcast. She guides women in their rebirthing journey and expanding their capacity to love, trust, receive, and be expressed. The foundation of her teachings is based in Taoism, energetics, and the practice of surrendering to the human experience and divine flow of nature. Her experience as an acupuncturist brings a holistic approach to her work where she integrates the physical, emotional, mental, and energetic realms. Her offerings range from group programs to in-person deep dives to VIP immersions. All of Po-Hong’s work is devoted to the remembrance of who we are and living from that place. You can learn more about her and her work at www.taoofpo.com.
Where to Find Po-Hong Yu
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RIP Resentment Group Program: https://www.taoofpo.com/rip-resentment-course
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Aleya Harris [00:00:00]:
You big mad, aren't you? Aren't you? Are you? Am I? Do you even know if you're mad or not? Do you know if repressed anger might be holding you back from capturing all of the abundance that should in fact be coming your way? Well, in this episode, I have the pleasure of talking with PO Hong Yu all about how to get into your body and use it as a guide to pinpoint how to release repressed anger that repressed anger that is keeping you from reaching your fullest potential. If you think that you might in fact have more to do and capture and live and experience in life than what you are being blocked from right now, then, my friend, this episode is for you. All right, let's go.
Yuliya Patsay [00:01:08]:
Welcome to the flourishing Entrepreneur podcast with Aleya Harris. If you're looking for actionable ways to stand out from the crowd, by standing in your power, you've come to the right place. Each week, we help you and your fellow empire building entrepreneurs become radically authentic and tap into your unique story to attract your ideal clients. Listen in and learn how to use energy alignment techniques and tried and true marketing strategies to transform from a leader to a legend. And now, your host, powerhouse story brand certified guide, award winning marketer bioenergetic business coach, and Japanese whiskey lover, aleya Harris.
Aleya Harris [00:02:04]:
It feels good to have a guest finally on our Flourishing Entrepreneur podcast. I've been in a series talking about stage to stream, giving you all of my juicy solo episodes about my speaking topics and how you can book me to be a speaker. But now we're transitioning into having conversations more about radical authenticity, rebirth, showing up as your true self, and how that can in fact affect your business's growth, your career's growth, and your overall happiness. And today, for our very first episode, I get to talk to a woman who I adore. She has an amazing story, she has amazing energy, and her laugh is infectious. Her name is PO Hong Yu. She is an emotional alchemist, somatic healer, medicine woman, and the host of the Tao of podcast. She guides women in their rebirthing journey and expanding their capacity to love, trust, receive, and be expressed their rebirthing journey. The reason why I'm leaning into radical authenticity and thoughts around rebirth is because I've gone through a recent rebirth myself where I feel like when I was in labor with my daughter, I died. And then I had the hard postpartum depression and anxiety journey up, clawing my way back into myself, but an even better version of myself. And I'm still at the tail end of that journey, but I really do feel like I've overcome. And during that process, I was like, well, who am I? How do I redefine myself? And it wasn't really a redefinition that I needed. It was a rediscovery. So the conversations that we're going to have today with Poe and ongoing with people are really, truly about how can you rediscover the core of who you are, the part of you that is the most capable of achieving? Your goals that you've set and enjoying the journey with less stress. No burnout, no powering through forcing through instead flowing with the energy and making it work for you. Because, my friend, building a business does not have to burn you out. Life does not have to be hard. You deserve to be happy. You deserve to feel light. You deserve all of the money and abundance that is coming your way. But in order to get there, you have to learn a new way of moving and being and doing. So often we get stuck when we get stuck by life's traps and challenges, and those boundaries become blockages and those hurdles become hurt that you suppress down inside of yu and you cannot overcome. So we're kicking off new types of conversations today with Poe. And also, if you're really wanting to grapple with this rediscovery, you've had a recent life change, you're wanting to move forward. I invite you on my brand new in person, live and in person retreat. It's called the radical rebirth retreat. And on the Radical Rebirth Retreat, we get into a deeper healing. We invite you to discover your best self in a loving environment. It's a little bit of a spiritual treat, a little bit of a personal branding intensive so you know who you are when you're done and a coaching mastermind. It starts before you even land it's seven days, and then when you come back, we help you with integration for a month. The purpose of the Radical Rebirth Retreat is to curate loving, immersive experiences that help entrepreneurs and executives transcend challenging life shifts and tell a new story. We're doing everything from plant medicine to yoga to massage to body work to toltech astrology. And we're doing it all in luxury accommodations because your girl is bougie. If you want to learn some more about it and apply to join us, there's only 13 seats available per session. Go to radicalrebirthretreat.com. That's radicalrebirthretreat.com and click apply. I would love to see you there on your way to becoming a member of the Radical Rebirth Retreat community. Now is a great time for you to tune in to this episode because we are, in fact, talking about excavating, the stuff that's on top of all of that juicy self of yours that's being hidden, and that your rebirth needs to come and excavate. In this episode with PO, we're talking about everything from body disassociation, abandonment issues, being afraid to feel and what that looks like. And then we go deep into what is anger? How do you know if you're angry? What is it preventing you from doing? And how then do you flow? And how then might you and your big brain of yours be preventing you from doing all of it? How are you being a master manipulator and manipulating yourself out of your highest good. I would be remiss if I didn't mention that Poe has an amazing group program that helps you solve these anger issues, and it's super duper affordable. If you're interested, she's going to tell you this URL at the end, but I'm going to tell it to you now because you might just see me there. Because after talking with Poe, I realized that I got some anger issues that might be preventing me from moving forward. Head over to dowfpo.com that is Taoofpo.com so you can check that out. It's definitely a program that she says is devoted to the remembrance of who we are and how to live from that place. All right, without further ado, let's get into this amazing, illuminating, and slightly uncomfortable I'm not hong to lie because she called me out. Slightly uncomfortable conversation with PO. Hey, PO, thank you so much for joining me on the flourishing entrepreneur podcast. How are you doing today?
Po-Hong Yu [00:08:54]:
I'm so good and so excited to have this conversation with you.
Aleya Harris [00:08:57]:
I'm excited, too. So, PO, for the people out there, we are new friends, and Poe is one of those people that you just meet, and it was like, oh, yeah, no, we're going to be know there are certain people you meet. You're like, please don't ever talk to me again. She's not one of those people. So I had a call with PO, and I was like, no, we need to integrate within each other's lives. This is what we're doing, not only because of the amazing work that she does around anger and resentment, which conversations we don't talk about often enough or heal from often enough, but also because she seems like a pretty cool chick. So, PO, before we get into our hard hitting questions, why don't you let the people know who you are and what you do?
Po-Hong Yu [00:09:46]:
Thank you for that. Yeah, I felt the same way when we connected last week. I was like, this woman is amazing. I can't wait till I get to know her better. So, yeah, same feelings there. I am a somatic healer, emotional alchemist, medicine woman, spiritual guide. I have a history of being an acupuncturist as well as well as owning multiple businesses and worked in corporate America in my 20s. So I also have, like, financial background. I also was a realtor and a real estate owner. So I have a whole range of things that I've done that support what I do now, actually. But, yeah, I support women and all genders, really, in reclaiming their body, their voice, and their power and their aliveness so that they can really step into their purpose work. And it's really fun.
Aleya Harris [00:10:45]:
I love that. I enjoy it. Before we go any further, I try not to have big vocab words. If I use the big vocab words, I want to break it down. Somatic tell the people what is somatic.
Po-Hong Yu [00:10:58]:
Yeah. So basically when we talk about the soma is the body. So we get into the body, we're connected to the body. We're feeling the body. We're feeling what's inside of the body, like sensations, emotions, old wounds, trauma, things like that. And it's very different than talk therapy because that can sometimes just be in the mind. And I find a lot of times people are very disconnected from their body because of trauma. They've disassociated and disconnected, which was my story, and so important to come back into the body.
Aleya Harris [00:11:38]:
Okay, so now you've already come up with me and my first question, what is that story? You said that was your story, you were disassociated and disconnected. What happened? What's going on?
Po-Hong Yu [00:11:49]:
Yeah, my parents got a divorce. My brother left around the same time. So I had major abandonment wounds. And then that spiraled into me getting raped multiple times between 13 and 16 because my foundation cracked and I was lost. And also, I was a latchky kid, and my parents were focused on work, and so I kind of could do whatever I wanted. And I ended up in the wrong places at the wrong time, looking for love, looking to fill up this empty hole inside, and it ended up becoming disastrous. But I really believe that everything happens for me, even the biggest traumas. I didn't see that for a long time, mind you, right. But it was because I was so deeply depressed and had shame and self hatred. I even tried to commit suicide when I was 13. And, yeah, I was very disconnected from my body, as you can imagine. I had no idea what sex was even that was. And so it created all of this conditioning and trauma in my body. And that was my beginning point. I really had to heal myself, and of course, am always healing myself, and that guided me to help to heal other people.
Aleya Harris [00:13:16]:
How did you get clued into the fact that you were even disassociated from your body?
Po-Hong Yu [00:13:24]:
That's a great question. I mean, in the midst of it, I didn't know, right? Because I didn't even know that was a thing.
Aleya Harris [00:13:30]:
And most people are walking around like that all the time. Like, what is she talking about? I can see my body. I'm not a floating ethereal spirit floating alongside my body. I'm in my body. What does it even feel like to know that I'm disassociated?
Po-Hong Yu [00:13:45]:
Yes. There's a couple of things. So the first is I remember going to a therapist, and she would ask me to tell me what I was feeling in my body, and I couldn't answer her, right. I was like, I don't know what a sensation is. Right. A lot of the work I do is connected to sensation. I was like, I don't know what I'm feeling. So I was like, oh, I'm not feeling things right. I feel numb. And then I went into a program that was more sensual and sexually based because I knew that I was having issues. Right. I was binge drinking a lot, getting blackout drunk as a young person, finding myself, waking up with people in their bed, like I had sex with them. So I'm like there was a pattern of self destruction. And so I went to this program and I realized that because it was a lot of physical interaction, I felt numb. I couldn't feel anything. I couldn't feel my sexual orgasmic energy. Yeah, I just felt like, what's wrong with me? Why can't I feel anything even when I'd have sex, right. I couldn't really feel it.
Aleya Harris [00:15:09]:
We're talking about what's a good way to say it like lidocaine on your if you put lidocaine on your finger, you can't feel it and it's numb. Or are we talking about like I'm not able to interpret sensation. When you say you can't feel it, do you mean physically can't feel it?
Po-Hong Yu [00:15:29]:
It's a combination. I think part of it was like there was a rewiring that need to happen for me to even understand what I was feeling. But also there was such a layer of numbness where because I would bypass my body so often, like, abandon my body so often that I was so focused on other people that I wasn't even checking in to what I was experiencing. And so it's not that I didn't feel feel. I could only feel if it was more intense. Yu.
Aleya Harris [00:16:04]:
Look for intense situations to be in. Because that was how you could feel.
Po-Hong Yu [00:16:10]:
Yes, exactly. But then what I realized was actually that was just more intensity to force something, but when I actually allowed softer and slower touch, that's when I really could feel the truth.
Aleya Harris [00:16:32]:
Okay, so you had experiences that made you disassociate from your body, and then you were in a healing journey where you're like, oh, wait, I can't feel anything. How did you get back to feeling? How did you integrate yourself back into a single PO?
Po-Hong Yu [00:16:54]:
Yeah, well, first it took a long time right. And a lot of focus. And I deep dived into this area because I was like, I want to be more present, I want to be in my body. And so multiple practices, feeling my sensations, really checking in, what is it that I'm actually feeling? Like, say I'm having a headache, even letting myself be with that discomfort instead of trying to numb it out, instead of trying to avoid it. Right. I would see patterns within myself where I was like, trying to numb out with weed or alcohol or food and things like that. So I started to see a pattern around addiction and how that was helping me to not feel. And so I would remove those things so that I could start to feel even more. Right. So there was but also, like, the sensual and sexual practices was a big part of it for me as well. And I had just spontaneous moments of healing that actually created part of what I teach now, which is based on sensations. So I was just so dedicated to learning how to feel that I would just pay attention and bring awareness as much as I could. And over time, slowly, I started to be able to experience more aliveness in my body.
Aleya Harris [00:18:22]:
How did the lack of feelings show up in other areas of your life? Because we talked about the weed and the sex and alcohol, but what did that mean? You still had to have a job and have family. And so when you were in your healing, they were right before maybe the beginning of your healing journey, what did that mean for the way that you interacted with the world?
Po-Hong Yu [00:18:47]:
Yeah, I mean, there was definitely levels to it at first because I was very functional dual life, and I find a lot of women can relate to this because they're so independent and they're overachievers. That was me. And so I was suffering so deeply, but then also able to keep it all together and be successful. And so I would go to work, I'd do my thing, but I was checked out. It was hard for me to be present and I would feel like and there was a lot of social anxiety back then too. And so I had a hard time being around people socially because my mind would go other places because of it. So I would notice that, why am I not able to even be here right now?
Aleya Harris [00:19:37]:
Was there a fear then of what feeling would, for lack of a better word, feel? Like if you could feel, why was that so bad?
Po-Hong Yu [00:19:50]:
Yeah, it wasn't a conscious thought, but what I've discovered along the way is that, yes, I was afraid to feel. And a lot of my clients are afraid to feel because they're afraid to actually they think it's going to blow up their life or they're going to lose control or they're going to get stuck there right in the darkness. And it's the opposite. It's actually you go through it and then, oh my God, it's light on the other side. But what I found was that the best way to avoid being in the body and healing was that suffering in the mind. So I thought I was feeling because I was so emotional, but more like suffering, like victim consciousness in my mind or like feeling sorry for myself or swampiness. And that's different than actual feeling, the real thing. Does that make sense?
Aleya Harris [00:20:55]:
That makes total sense. You're basically a master manipulator. And I'm saying this because I am one too. Nice to meet you. We should develop an anonymous group. Master manipulators. Anonymous. Because it's like, you know, the first level. You're like, okay, I know that I'm disassociated if you learn that, but your brain is like, oh, you don't even know the half of it. I'm keeping you fully aware of nothing. You're in your head, not in your body. You don't even know what that feels like because I'm playing this thing and trying to trick you to think that you're doing something.
Po-Hong Yu [00:21:27]:
Yes. And you know what I found a lot too is that because I was always very smart, right? Even though I was really fucked up in so many ways, emotionally and in my life, I was also really smart and I understood all the things. And so I find that a lot of women that I work with, they've gone to therapy a lot. They've read all the books, they have gone to many healing programs. And so that can block them because they're so intelligent and they understand the thing, but they're just doing it from their mind versus having an embodied experience. And that's the game changer.
Aleya Harris [00:22:05]:
Okay, for anyone that's listening, I kind of want you to press there's, that little button that goes back 10 seconds. 10 seconds, 10 seconds. Press that about twice and re listen to what PO just said. That is almost all of my audience because people email me and they DM me and they're like, oh, but Aleya, I just don't understand how to do this. I can't figure out or my favorite Aleya. Here's my plan that I put together three steps. It's color coded, it's fabulous. Of how my healing journey and I'm like, I mean, I appreciate the dedication to yourself, I'm not knocking it. But they will conceptualize themselves out of their own healing. They will intellectualize the problem so much that they're actually not getting any benefit. They will be able to meditate 3 hours a day and have the morning routine and do all the things and not actually get any benefit from it. And I see it all the time. And it's always the smart ones, the clients that I work with, the more degrees I have, I just know the more difficult their session will be. Because convincing them that they don't know how to do something and that they can't use their brain to do it. Oh my God, that's like first three sessions by itself.
Po-Hong Yu [00:23:32]:
Yes, it really is a thing. It's like they're outsmarting themselves.
Aleya Harris [00:23:37]:
Outsmarting themselves. And so then they need to join our newly developed master manipulators Anonymous, because that's what they're hong to themselves. They're manipulating themselves away from their healing because it's just so painful. I also am very interested in another thing that you said too, about being afraid of feeling the feeling because you're going to get stuck in the feeling. I know someone that is like that. I actually am not like that. I will feel all the feels because I don't know. I know that that's not where I'm going to stay. I don't know why I know that. But I know that I have a whole bunch of other issues. That's just not one of them. I got one that's not my issue. But I do know someone who is like that. And so they block it down and then they blow up, right? They block it down and then they blow up and then they're like, OOH, I'm so sorry. I don't know where that came from. I'm like, well, probably from all that stuff you've been pushing down all and down in there. Right? So what do you tell someone besides because saying, well, there's light at the end of the tunnel. You will feel differently later. You just got to go through this. That sounds like a bunch of lies. Like even me telling yu. Even though it's a truth that sounds like, oh yeah, sure. When you're in it and you're feeling the darkness, you're like, no, this darkness is unending. When I was in the depths of my postpartum depression, I was like, I think this is where I live now. And I'm then trying the smartness, right? Trying to figure out, well, how do I build a couch over here? Because this is apparently the dark room that is now my life. It at least needs some color. This is me as opposed to how the hell do I get out of this room? I just agree to accept that sadness and deep anxiety and all that were going to follow me. So what do you tell someone to really get them to understand that that's not true?
Po-Hong Yu [00:25:32]:
Well, if somebody isn't willing to hear it, you can't tell them anything, right? That's the first thing. It's like somebody has to be open and willing to actually receive that. I'm not going to force anybody to believe. Yeah, right, yeah. And then second good point.
Aleya Harris [00:25:53]:
My therapist Melody just told me that yesterday. Dr. Schwartz, if you're listening, I promise if you and Poe are colluding against me, I appreciate you for doing so. Therapy.
Po-Hong Yu [00:26:07]:
And the second part is that often we are motivated by inspiration or desperation. And usually it's desperation. And so most of the time people come to me when they're stuck as fuck and they're tired of it. And they're like then there's a willingness, they're like, okay, I'm ready. Tao. Hear what's possible. I've been in this spin cycle of the same thing over and over again. I just can't take it anymore. Or sometimes somebody might have to just hear it said a different way or a new way or multiple times. And then maybe they just have a moment of like, oh my god, yes. Right. But there has to be that receptivity. The foundation of my work is based on taoism with the emphasis yin. And yin is feminine energy. It's all about surrender, receptivity, openness, softness and compassion. And so that ying energy needs to be available for any of this to be possible.
Aleya Harris [00:27:13]:
We're now going to take a vocabulary break one more time in the interview of Pohung Yu. Can you please now define taoism for the class?
Po-Hong Yu [00:27:25]:
Yes. Oh my God. This might be the funnest, most hilarious interview.
Aleya Harris [00:27:33]:
This is great. Oh, my God.
Po-Hong Yu [00:27:37]:
So Taoism is a Chinese philosophy. It's not a religion, and it's based off of nature. And Lao Zhu is the person, the philosopher that created the Tao de Ying. People might have heard of that book. It's been translated a gazillion times, and the foundation of it is Ying and Yang. Yin is the feminine energy. Yang is the masculine energy. And I'm an Acupuncturist. As you know, Taoism is the foundation of acupuncture. And my dad is my spiritual teacher, and he's a Taoist teacher. So it's just part of who I am. But they work as one. The feminine and masculine energy. You've seen that symbol, right? That circle, black and white symbol.
Aleya Harris [00:28:25]:
People get it tattooed on them. They don't know what it means.
Po-Hong Yu [00:28:31]:
It's describing that symbol is describing the nature of how they work together as an energy. And Ying is like the mother, and it's all relative. So if we're talking about the body, yin would be the body, yang would be your mind. This is really about coming back to the body when we think about Ying in this way.
Aleya Harris [00:28:59]:
And so where does Ying get its power from?
Po-Hong Yu [00:29:05]:
That's interesting. I've never thought about that question. I would say it's the surrender. It's the surrender. It's like the deep level of trust and letting go that allows for the magic to happen when we're in that Yin energy. Literally no, go ahead.
Aleya Harris [00:29:27]:
Literally. What?
Po-Hong Yu [00:29:28]:
Yeah. My anger alchemy process is Yin based because a lot of times they'll have rage practices that are more Yang, meaning, like, more loud and expressive and outward. Right. Yin is more inward, and it doesn't mean that in my Anger alchemy process, people don't scream or punch or anything like that. It's more that we're dropping into the thing. And also, it makes it less scary because some women are like, I don't want to touch my anger, I'm afraid. And so the yin process really allows it to be more gentle and organic versus forcing the masculine energy is more about the forcing energy, more about the structure and the outwardness. So it really is about allowing yourself to soften into it, which, by the way, is harder. Right. It's harder than the Yang aspect.
Aleya Harris [00:30:28]:
And I feel like you can also do a lot of performative Yang. I can yell and not actually release anything.
Po-Hong Yu [00:30:35]:
Oh, my God. You just hit it on the nail. This has been something that's been coming up in my RIP Resentment program. They were talking about how they were bypassing the spot because they were focusing on the outward expression. And so that's the thing with the work of surrender, is that being on the spot, being exactly where you are in the moment versus what you think you should be doing, which is what these women that we were talking about.
Aleya Harris [00:31:05]:
Let me yell RA. I feel exactly the same.
Po-Hong Yu [00:31:14]:
It might feel smooth out on the surface for a little bit, but it's like blocking them from actually going deeper.
Aleya Harris [00:31:21]:
So I can understand, based on the story that you told, and I haven't even gotten to hear all of your stories yet, but based on the story that we've told so far, I could see where rage is coming from. I could see where anger is coming from. How do, though, if you don't have a story like that, say, like, your story is like, oh, I had a normal little lie, got me a little job, now, owe me a little business, and I'm pissed the fuck off all the time. How do you know that? Because it's not hong to be well, of course I'm angry, because I've been through all of this stuff. How do you know that you're angry? And is anger the same as rage? Am I feeling both? How does that show up? For most people, it's different.
Po-Hong Yu [00:32:05]:
So there are some people who don't know at all that they have anger living in their body because it's so deeply repressed. And so it could come out as somebody. Like, what I found there are patterns. Like, there's a lot of women who are like, people pleasers, and good girls or over givers. I found that these women tend to have a lot of unprocessed and repressed anger in their body. And it might come out as like, passive aggressiveness or nitpickiness or complaining or frustrated a lot, but it's just like annoyance. But also as an acupuncturist, I noticed that some women were very disconnected from their anger, but I would pinpoint it because their body would show symptoms of it. Because liver is connected to anger in Chinese medicine and it's on the right side. So whenever somebody has a lot of right sided issues or pain, I would be like, oh, there might be anger here, or like fibroids or cysts or headaches a lot, or fatigue. There's different ways. Even depression, like a lot of depression is because the anger has been depressed.
Aleya Harris [00:33:22]:
Down, been pressed down, and now it's just sitting lower. Okay? We're using lots of down and up and in and out and deep and not deep language. And it's just getting me to think. So if I think about levels of this, I think of maybe like on the top, I'm mildly annoyed, right? And then downside, I'm like, oh, don't test me. That's when my black girl next level happens, the finger comes out. We're getting down a little deeper, right? A little bit. Like then I'm like, oh, no, I can feel it in my chest. Or I get hot, I'm getting more and more angry. Then I'm like, oh, deeper down I'm like, angry, angry. But then I feel like all of that, based on what you're saying, is still just the very superficial level of anger.
Po-Hong Yu [00:34:08]:
This is a great point because what I have noticed, because I also facilitate plant medicine journeys, but also, like. The group. I'm a liaison for inner children. I like to say, like, one of.
Aleya Harris [00:34:22]:
My gifts, because mine often is in this dark room. And I pull her out, and the next time I talk to her, she's back in there. And I know I put her in there and I'm sorry.
Po-Hong Yu [00:34:32]:
Yeah, so many inner children are in there. And what I found is that there's so many inner children that are full of anger, because, like you mentioned earlier, not everybody has gone through trauma like I have. But that doesn't mean that they're not angry because let's say for example, I've heard this story many times, the child was expressing anger or frustration and the parent was like oh no, that's not appropriate, you should not like that. Even if they don't yell at you tao, shut up. There's like a shutting down of your voice and your expression. And then a lot of parents are also like oh girls, you need to be a good girl. That good girl conditioning, right? So that pushes all that down too. But then there's other situations where you might have parents that were rageful and then you express your anger and they shut you down even though it's like a whole.
Aleya Harris [00:35:31]:
Hypocrisy.
Po-Hong Yu [00:35:35]:
But essentially the deeper thing is like these young parts of ourselves were shut down somehow. And that's why I see a pattern of many women where their throat and their chest and their mouth and their jaw is tight and they are not able to actually use the fullness of their voice or expression.
Aleya Harris [00:35:56]:
So y'all, when I first had a conversation with PO, she was telling me about her little anger thing. I thought that's cute, your little anger thing. I'm not angry though. And then she started talking about all this stuff like she's talking about right now like in the throat and this and the inner child. And then I said, I apparently have the wrath of God inside of me that needs to come out because I know what you guys are thinking. I know it. You guys are like anger.
Po-Hong Yu [00:36:26]:
I'm not angry.
Aleya Harris [00:36:27]:
I know someone that's anger, like they go to anger is anonymous or they beat their spouses or those are angry people. I am not an angry person. I hope after listening to Poe talk you had a little come to Jesus moment like I did, that you really probably do have some unprocessed anger. My question to you, PO, is what happens if I don't do anything about it? What happens if I just keep being my in denial, angry intellectualizing?
Po-Hong Yu [00:36:58]:
Yes. Yes. Well there's multiple things. I kind of spoke on a couple, which is like the depression, the insomnia, anxiety, any kind of physical issues like I mentioned fibroids and headaches and things like that. But also autoimmune diseases. Dr. Gabor Mate has talks about this all the time and it could be any kind of disease. Like it literally can come out in the body. So this is the thing about unprocessed emotions and specifically anger. Every emotion has an energy, and energy needs to move. And if we do not move it, it has to come out some way, right? And so it's going to either come out on other people, whether it's like subtly or harshly, it's going to come out on yourself, like self anger inside and being just an asshole to yourself, or it's going to come out on your body or your mental health or all of them, right? So it's harmful in every single way.
Aleya Harris [00:38:08]:
So I have fibroid. Go ahead. I was like, Stop talking. I have fibroids. I have an autoimmune disease. I have depression. I'm like, So why don't you just go ahead and about the Rip Resentment course, is that what it's called? Is there a URL for that? When can we sign up? How much does it cost?
Po-Hong Yu [00:38:38]:
We're not even talking about this is also like generational, right? We haven't even gone there, right? How it's been passed down through the generations when we don't even know it also epigenetics all the whole thing, you.
Aleya Harris [00:38:54]:
Know, about me and my mama need to come is basically what you're talking about. Yeah.
Po-Hong Yu [00:39:02]:
Sounds like another byproduct, though, is that you're disconnected from yourself and other people, right? Like, there's a wall, and it's harder to have more intimacy, more true, genuine connections, because there's this constant thing in between, and that's what people want the most, is true connection.
Aleya Harris [00:39:26]:
Yes. That's why we talk about being radically authentic, or I do anyways, and how you can get to know yourself so that you can find those people who vibrate at that same energy, who are matching that frequency, who are matching where you are at, but you attract what you are, not what you want. So the problem is, if you're, I don't know, sitting here with autoimmune disease and fibroids, with depression issues and all of the other things that Poe just listed, you are attracting what matches that current energy signature could be what you want to do to move your life forward or could not spoiler it a lot. It's not what I wanted, so I would rather take myself and my energy. You're saying everything, all emotions and truthfully, everything has an energy around it, and make my energy match the energy of what I want. That's how manifestation works. Kind of like manifestation one on one, right? I want you to tell me how I can do this in this course. Tell me about this course. Tell me all the things. It's not a course. It's a group program. Group coaching.
Po-Hong Yu [00:40:41]:
It's a group program, yeah. Especially because you work with people, with businesses. This is so important when we talk about magnetic energy, when we transform and Alchemize the anchor, it allows for more receptivity, for that abundance and connection and goodness and money and all those things to come in too. But yeah, rest in peace Resentment is a six week group program. It's five calls, and for this one, it's all women. I have gotten a request to do a mixed gender one, which I think would be really powerful and would break down barriers. But, yeah, basically, I teach you how to be in this yin based anger alchemy process. I do guided journeys. I coach women one on one in the group and really focusing in on going deeper to the root. Because everything I do is about going to the core wound. Because, like a tree, if we keep trimming the branches, that's not enough. We need tao go to the actual root to heal. And so this process really allows you to drop into where it began right. Versus just trying to smooth out those top level surfaces like we were talking about. And if yu notice yourself having the same patterns over and over again. It's saying there is a root wound that has not been touched or healed from my experience. So, yeah, it's 650 early bird until tomorrow. I don't know when this is coming.
Aleya Harris [00:42:23]:
Out, but you guys missed it. What's the regular price? $800.
Po-Hong Yu [00:42:31]:
But, you know, it's actually because when I created this, I was like, I want tao make this as accessible as I can based off of my energy and time, because I just have felt the collective and how many people are walking around with repressed anger. And I'm like, this is like a major service that I'm giving because no one's talking about it. I never saw a program that's just focused on anger. Right. And so I want to make it as accessible not only financially, but also it's not scary. A lot of women are scared, and my process takes the fear and the scariness out of it.
Aleya Harris [00:43:13]:
Yeah, absolutely.
Po-Hong Yu [00:43:16]:
It starts September 10.
Aleya Harris [00:43:17]:
Starts September 10. This is released before September 10. And if you aren't listening to this before September 10, I mean, reach out to PO. This is not the only one of these that's happening. Right. Find out when the next one find out when the next one is. I might be in it with you because apparently your girl's got some anger issues. And actually, I'm teasing and I'm joking, but I think that is so powerful to realize that and to name it and to see how it can manifest differently than how we always think of anger. Like the cartoon character with the steam coming out of its ears. Oh, it's anger. Especially for women or people that operate in that feminine energy could look differently. It could really look differently.
Po-Hong Yu [00:44:07]:
Yeah. And what you just said was really important because the first piece is the Acknowledgment, because so many women don't want to admit it because there's so much shame and judgment around it. And so it's really important that we bring approval to this. Like it's a human emotion. There's actually healthy anger as well. And so really bringing approval to it.
Aleya Harris [00:44:30]:
Okay, I have a final question that's a little bit unrelated, but I just want to know. I'm very curious. As for everything we've talked about, if you could ask the universe for something right now and be 100% sure it would manifest, what would it be?
Po-Hong Yu [00:44:48]:
My life partner.
Aleya Harris [00:44:51]:
That's nice. I have a hubby. I'm pretty sure he's my life partner today. He is, at least. I'm kidding. I love him. He's my life partner. And it is fabulous. It is fabulous. He makes cute babies, if nothing else. Ruby coral's. So we'll keep him. And I am touching and agreeing and sending love and light to you for the universe to help you manifest that.
Po-Hong Yu [00:45:14]:
Thank you so much.
Aleya Harris [00:45:16]:
Is there anything else you would like to tell the people out there? Any final words of wisdom?
Po-Hong Yu [00:45:24]:
Wisdom. Well, if you want to check out more wisdom, I also have a podcast called Tao of PO, which you're going.
Aleya Harris [00:45:32]:
To be on at some point.
Po-Hong Yu [00:45:37]:
But, yeah, the wisdom is that the only way to heal and to expand is through love. Like, I'm a shadow worker, but that means I'm also a light worker. Light and love and compassion and approval and gentleness and kindness. The yin energy is the only way to heal. We cannot force ourselves to heal. We cannot force ourselves to feel. We can't force ourselves tao Express. We can't force ourselves to anything. We can. But it's going to bypass the real.
Aleya Harris [00:46:11]:
It ain't going to work out real well for us.
Po-Hong Yu [00:46:12]:
Ain't going to work the way you want it to.
Aleya Harris [00:46:14]:
Yeah. Well, my darling PO, this has been amazing and illuminating and hilarious. Tell the people if they want some more of that Poe magic where they.
Po-Hong Yu [00:46:27]:
Can find you, they can find me@dowfpo.com. That's Taoofpo. And I'm on Instagram, on Facebook, LinkedIn, but I'm not really on LinkedIn that much.
Aleya Harris [00:46:41]:
But Instagram and Facebook and the website, that's where we're going to find yes, yes.
Po-Hong Yu [00:46:48]:
And I'm on my stories a lot. I love to connect with the people. And, yeah, it's fun. I love engaging with folks. So come and check me out.
Aleya Harris [00:46:58]:
Wonderful. Well, thank you for being a guest. This has been wonderful. And until I see you on your podcast, I hope you have a wonderful rest of your day.
Po-Hong Yu [00:47:08]:
You, too. Thank you.
Aleya Harris [00:47:26]:
Well, apparently I have anger issues. I guess that's a surprising thing for me. Was it surprising for you? Do you feel like you have some repressed anger? If not, what other limiting beliefs might be holding you back? Or actually, not even beliefs. It's limiting feeling feelings that might be trapped into your body. What could be preventing you from unearthing your most radically authentic self? The self that the world needs, the self that is the most attractive to abundance and partners and opportunities. What's holding you back? I encourage you to think that through. And if you do need help doing that, work with poe and also join me on the radical rebirth retreat. On the Radical rebirth retreat, we go step by step by step, using plant medicine to dive into what makes you you. Removing all of the ideas from other people, removing anger, removing hurt, getting down into the core of who you are. We have expert practitioners who have been in tight knit circles who you might not even be able to access on your own. And of course, there are only 13 slots available. If you are ready to get the life that you deserve, to connect more effectively with your team and clients, to stop wasting time drowning in confusion and pain, and to develop a unique, radically authentic, personal brand story that reinvigorates your career or your business, then I invite you to apply. Please apply. To be a member of the radical rebirth community and go with us on our next retreat. To learn more, head to www.radicalrebirthretreat.com. Again, that is radicalrebirthretreat.com. Okay, until next time, my name is Aleya Harris. This is the flourishing entrepreneur podcast, and I am wishing you lots of love, light, and abundance. Bye for now.
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