Transforming Motherhood Narratives
with Jillian Anderson
Have you ever wondered how motherhood transforms a woman’s identity? Join us as Jillian Anderson, a specialist in copywriting for motherhood-inspired brands, dives into the emotional and transformational journey of motherhood on this episode of The Flourishing Entrepreneur. Jillian shares her unique perspective on how storytelling can profoundly impact and support new mothers, exploring themes of identity shift and emotional resilience.
Key Takeaways:
Emotional Journey of Motherhood: Explore how motherhood reshapes personal identity and discover the untold emotional narratives that many mothers experience.
Power of Storytelling in Marketing: Learn how effective, empathetic storytelling in marketing can validate and uplift mothers, providing them with a sense of community and understanding.
Crafting Impactful Copy: Gain insights into how Jillian tailors her copywriting skills to connect deeply with her audience, offering support and acknowledgment through her words.
Why Listen: If you're involved with or interested in motherhood-related brands, or if you’re navigating your own journey as a mother, this episode offers invaluable insights into the transformative power of storytelling. Tune in to hear how Jillian uses her expertise to help mothers feel seen, heard, and supported in their most challenging and rewarding moments.
About Jillian Anderson
Jillian Anderson is a Copywriter + Copy Consultant for Motherhood Inspired Brands.
She has worked with over 250 clients from across 55 countries and now specializes in High Performance Sales Copy — the kind that sounds like you and sells way better.
Jillian lives in the southern U.S. with her husband, children, and a noncompliant flock of chickens.
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About Aleya Harris
Aleya Harris is the spark for your spark™. A trailblazer in purpose-driven story crafting, she is a marketing executive and ex-Google Vendor Partner who brings her dynamic experience to her role as the CEO of The Evolution Collective Inc. Aleya is an international award-winning speaker, the founder and lead trainer of Spark the Stage ™, and the host of the award-winning Flourishing Entrepreneur Podcast. She is also the author of the upcoming book Spark the Stage: Master the Art of Professional Speaking and Authentic Storytelling to Captivate, Inspire, and Transform Your Audience. Her unique approach as a Strategic Storytelling Consultant has revolutionized the way businesses communicate, transforming workplace cultures and market positioning. With her dynamic energy and proven methodologies, Aleya guides clients to unlock their potential, articulate their radically authentic stories, and achieve unparalleled success.
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[00:01] Aleya Harris: So let me just tell you that the episode you're about to listen to is not what I was planning on doing. I was planning on having this wonderful soul of a human being on to discuss sales copy and, you know, general marketing, copywriting things. But she was just giving me so many things I got curious about that I just couldn't help myself by asking questions. We're talking about things that I think are even better and more profound around motherhood and failure and the relationship between your story as a mother and then the story of your child entering and death and rebirth and all of the things. It is one of the most beautiful conversations I've had on the Flourishing Entrepreneur podcast and I cannot wait for you to hear it, especially hearing it coming from a fellow storyteller name Julian Anderson. Jillian Anderson is a copywriter and a copy consultant for motherhood inspired brands. She's worked with over 250 clients from across 55 countries and now she specializes in high performance sales copy, the kind that sounds like you and sells way better. She lives in the Southern US with her husband, children and a non compliant flock of chickens. This is an amazing episode, especially if you're a mom, you know, a mom, you are the partner of someone who's about to give birth to a child. An understanding how life shifts and grows and develops. I'm passionate about understanding this because it helps me understand the stage of life that I'm in as a mother of a 19 month old beautiful baby girl, Ruby Coral. And this episode, I think gets into some of the heart of the things that you don't see on Instagram. And you're not going to hear these types of conversations happening very widely out there. So get ready, feel the heartwarmingness coming and feel the feeling scene coming because that's what is happening in this episode. All right, let's go.
[02:10] Yuliya Patsay: Welcome to the Flourishing Entrepreneur podcast with Aleya Harris. If you're looking for actionable ways to overcome communication and differentiation challenges by sharing radically authentic stories, you are in the right place. Listen in and learn how to stand in the power of your unique narrative to transform your personal life, business and workplace culture. And now your host, award winning international speaker, strategic storytelling consultant and Japanese whiskey lover, Ruby Coral's mom, Aleyah Harris.
[02:59] Aleya Harris: Jillian, thank you so much for joining me here on the Flourishing Entrepreneur podcast today. How you doing?
[03:05] Jillian Anderson: I'm doing great, Aleya. Thanks for having me.
[03:08] Aleya Harris: Awesome, awesome, awesome. Still, I've already talked a little bit about who you are and what you do, but it's different coming straight from the person. So in just a couple of sentences before we get into our hard hitting questions, can you tell the people who you are and what you do?
[03:24] Jillian Anderson: Yeah. So I'm Jillian Anderson. I'm a copywriter and copy consultant for motherhood inspired brands and I focus on high performance sales copy that sounds like you and sells way better.
[03:37] Aleya Harris: Why motherhood brands?
[03:39] Jillian Anderson: Great question. I focused on the motherhood brands probably because I have a deep understanding of the ideal client for a lot of these businesses and brands. I really connect with moms. I connect with moms in the holistic health space space a lot. And so I just enjoy that work. I enjoy those offers. I enjoy the heart and the mission behind a lot of those businesses. Improving maternal health care for women, improving mental health care for new moms, improving postpartum care for new moms. I'm very passionate about those things and so it felt very natural to bridge my work in copywriting with those interests and passions.
[04:19] Aleya Harris: I'm so glad that you're doing that. As someone who had very deep postpartum depression for 10, 11 months, I love anytime I come across anyone and anything that is helping moms navigate any part of motherhood. There are very, I mean, I don't know, and I've said this before, who the PR person for motherhood is, but they are doing an amazing job because before you have kids it's just all like pink nurseries with clouds and like cool little ribbons and stuff and you're like, oh, and I'm a mom and I get Mother's Day cards and hand little drawings and mugs and almost none of that is what it really feels like to be a mom. And especially when you're. I'm a first time mom. Especially as you're entering into motherhood. I have realized how little of that there is and how much more realness there is in motherhood. So I'm so excited that you're helping to have those brands communicate the assistance and the help and the just resonance even more because I think they really need it because there needs to be. They need to shop from the rooftops and moms need to know that those opportunities are available for them.
[05:33] Jillian Anderson: Yeah, they need help. They need to be able to understand where to get help. They need to be able to have those hard conversations. I totally agree, 100%.
[05:42] Aleya Harris: So you are a copywriter. Check. How does telling the story for a motherhood brand differ from telling a story for any other brand?
[05:55] Jillian Anderson: Great question. I think that I'm always working backwards from the emotional connection that the Website or the offer has with the reader. And so it has to do with that story. That story that's going to evoke that emotion of basically change and transformation, the change in the transformation that the reader wants, which, if this is a mother who's looking for. Maybe she's looking to be less of an angry mom. Let's just say maybe, and I'm saying angry mom, but, like, maybe she's looking to enjoy motherhood more. Maybe she's.
[06:36] Aleya Harris: You mean being less than, like, a mom? Because I feel like angry is always in parenthesis. Sometimes it's just silent, and we just don't say it out loud. But I feel like it's often just, like, omnipresent, ready to be activated when needed.
[06:53] Jillian Anderson: I wish more people would talk about it. I mean, I, with my first, had a lot of anger come up, and I really think it was a rocky transition into motherhood. I didn't have a good mother figure. I had a lot of dysfunction in my home growing up. And so basically, motherhood was like, all right, let's. Let's have a hard time. And so, you know, with the storytelling, I really try to connect emotionally, connect the reader emotionally to an aspirational goal or an aspirational phase of her life. What does she want to step into? What does she want to feel? What does she want to let go of? And what stories best communicate that transformation that she's seeking.
[07:33] Aleya Harris: I think so often we don't really underscore the transformational part of motherhood. Like, obviously, you're transforming from, like, not a mother to a mother or a mother of one to a mother of two, which I have heard is a crazy ride in and of itself. You have how many kids?
[07:52] Jillian Anderson: I have two.
[07:54] Aleya Harris: Yeah. You are more of a woman than I am. No, I'm just. I already.
[07:58] Jillian Anderson: I know I'm gonna say I only.
[07:59] Aleya Harris: Have one, and I'm just like. I cannot even. Even girlfriend even fathom.
[08:07] Jillian Anderson: I need to say, yeah, no. Two is easier than one. I. I'm serious. Two is easier than one. At two. Really?
[08:16] Aleya Harris: You were the only person I've ever heard.
[08:18] Jillian Anderson: I'm telling you, once there's another one, they become a little clan, and all of a sudden, you're in a different, like, class in the house. You're a different level, and they just, like, take care of each other. I swear. I swear they become a clan. It is easier. Two easier than one.
[08:34] Aleya Harris: Two. Okay. All right. My husband would love to hear you say that, because he is like, let's have seven. And I'M like, right even. But I love again, are you talking about the transformation and the different transformation through becoming a mother and then throughout the stages of motherhood. What was one of the pivotal moments in your life when you were like, oh, wow, this is different. Oh, wow, I have transformed. Oh wow. Like I am now a mom. And now I have this in depth understanding of what this means or something else that you didn't have before. And it was a kind of a more guttural felt experience versus what you could read on the interwebs.
[09:19] Jillian Anderson: Yeah, that guttural felt experience for me was certainly right immediately after my son's birth. And he. We had two unassisted childbirths planned. And so it was really, it was just my husband and I there in the lake house cabin. We had a tiny little blue bathtub, the ugliest, tiniest little bathroom. My son was born in that bathtub and he basically came out screaming with his eyes wide open. And in that moment I was like, highly aware that birth is death. And this is the same thing. Literally, he's born, birth is death. Like, it was obviously this is like kind of a concept that's a little tough to put words to, but it was just this.
[10:08] Aleya Harris: It's tough to describe, but I'm right.
[10:09] Jillian Anderson: There with, yeah, it's like, oh, wow, this is a cycle of life, birth and death. And I'm going to die one day. And I just looked at him and was like this, my life is going to be over. Your life is just starting. And in that moment, I knew I needed to become a writer. And I. That I was a writer, but that I needed to write publicly. And so I basically became, you know, very passionate about writing online. And that was 2013 and I just ran with it. It was publishing one blog at a time. I'm just going to put this out there. I'm going to hit publish. So that was my, you know, guttural felt, you know, moment there.
[10:48] Aleya Harris: Well, let's. Okay, let me, let's break this down a little bit because I feel like I missed something in the gap because you had. This is how your, your son was born. And then the concept of birth and death, how did you connect that to begin when you write it? Was it that you wanted to leave a legacy because you knew that you were going to be dying soon? How did that. What was that connection?
[11:06] Jillian Anderson: Yeah, the connection was that I don't want to die and not have done what's inside of me or have published what I have to say or expressed, I think self Expression really. Like, there is this drive to express myself, to write, to put words to concepts. And if I don't act on this on my deathbed, I will regret it. I will look back and think, you didn't use what juice you had. Why didn't you do it? Why didn't you do anything about it?
[11:34] Aleya Harris: Oh, I think that that's amazing and so beautiful. On your birth bed, thinking about your deathbed and your birth bed, inspiring your passions to make sure that when you're on your deathbed, you have lived your life to the fullest. What an amazing way. An amazing way to articulate a birth story. It's interesting. I have a very, very, very dear friend of mine whose parent is in the process of transitioning on the other end, like you were talking about. And soon the parent will be on their deathbed and she has a death doula or a death or it's a hospice person who was describing and is preparing the family and described dying, like, going into labor. And I'm like, really? And I had never thought about it before, how when we are in labor, I don't know about you, but I was like. There were several times where I just wanted to, like, press pause. I was like, can I just, like, catch my breath? Like, I just need a second? Like, I wanted to, like, talk to the manager of labor and be like, hey, I need to talk to your boss. Because, like, I just need, like, can you just give me a beat? Like, five minutes, catch my breath, want to walk around, maybe knock back a shot of whiskey and, like, pause and then we can get back into it. But as you know, there is no manager of labor and there is no. There's no pause button. And I apparently, according to the information that my friend was telling me, death feels very similar. Once it gets rolling, it's just rolling. Once the transition is starting, the transition is just in place. And you don't have. You have control about how you go through the transition, but not if you're going through the transition, right? Your son, at a certain point in time, your son was coming. If you could cross your legs, you could clench your booty cheeks together, your son was coming, right? And we often, I feel like, don't notice the transitions that we make in life as being something that's out of our control. Most of the transitions are in our control. So if you're thinking about the transition that your son gave you and the experience and the beautiful transition that it allowed you to make in your own life, to finding your passion, you're now in control of that. But what are some of the lessons that you maybe learn from your labor experience or from your birthing experience when you were out of control that you can apply, and you do apply now in your life and in your work, when your transition and your constant involvement, you're in more in control.
[14:16] Jillian Anderson: What a great question. I mean, control is such an interesting topic. I, I have struggled with control more in the past. I think that becoming a mom has softened me a little bit to the ebbs and flows and being confident, comfortable with being out of control. I would say I'm a 9 out of 10 comfortable, out of control now. Whereas previously and prior to motherhood, I was probably, you know, a 3 out of 10 comfortable with being out of control. So I am very much a spontaneous, in the moment flow kind of a person. I really struggle with planning because I feel like, and this is a little bit of a tangent, but I feel like planning, for instance, things in business, launches, experiences. It's hard for me to feel like all the factors are going to line up. I would almost rather be riding the ebbs and flows of all the change naturally than feeling like, oh, I had a plan, I was had control of the plan. Now it's all out of control. It's out of my hands. So. But you know, just like everybody else, it's tough to be out of control. We recently moved. I was, I felt like everything was out of control. Where is my office? What am I doing? Where's the rhythms and routines? The whole, everyone is out of control in my house. I cannot regain control.
[15:46] Aleya Harris: That's that one out of 10, that little bit, that one out of 10 that you were talking about. Right. I'm very interested in this concept though. I'm going to ask another related question because you're more comfortable with the ebbs and flows, but how does that relate to how you perceive success and failure? Because this is my thinking and I'm putting words totally in your mouth and you have every right to disagree with me. But my thought is, because this is also not me, you're 9 out of 10 comfortable with being out of control. I'm like the opposite. I'm a Virgo sun sign. I'm like, no, but really. But if we made a checklist about it, everything would be better. That's me. So this is like I'm exploring, I'm exploring your world and trying to put words so that I can have a different perspective, which is probably also like healthier one for me as well. So you're ebbing and flowing. But then. And so then out of control is fine. But then where do you attribute your success to or your failure to. Do you attribute to the things that you did? Do you attribute just to things that are lining up or misaligning? How do you take that accountability or responsibility for the things that are happening or not? Like, what's. What does that picture look like? Paint that for me. I feel like I'm looking at you through a microscope. I'm like, this is such a different way of thinking. And I'm fascinated.
[17:11] Jillian Anderson: Maybe it's my structure and discipline side that allows me to feel comfortable, out of control, because I do now, while I'm not like, checklist, checklist, checklist. I'm very. Time block. I have a lot of time blocks. I have a general flow of what happens at this time block, and then I flow to the next time block. And so no matter what, I'm showing up and hitting Monday through Friday with my best, you know, giving it my best. So I think I'm kind to myself because I have that. But it's not rigid in terms of all the things need to happen or all the things need to happen at the precise time. But in terms of failure, I really think that there is a quote I like, and Myron golden said this. He said, if it's not working for me, it's working on me. And it took me years of entrepreneurship and failures. For instance, with launches, right? A launch where I thought, all right, this launch is certainly going to do $20,000. I'm going to go and hire a new team member. I'm going to do this, that, and put all these pieces in place. And then your launch does nowhere near what you thought, right? There were moments like that where I wish I had heard that quote, right? If it's not working for you, it's working on. And, you know, you can look back and say, I'm seasoned, I have thick skin, I can handle it. I'm enjoying it more. I'm enjoying entrepreneurship more, having failure under my belt. Quite, quite a lot of failure. I'm enjoying the whole thing more.
[18:45] Aleya Harris: You know, I'm with you. I have quite a lot of failure under my belt as well, including failed launches. And it. And it is. It's almost like I can't think of another. Another metaphor. So we're just going to say the one that's popping in my mind is like popping your. Your cherry. And then right after that, it's like, oh, well, I've done that, and I'm still Here. So if I do it again, like, I wouldn't enjoy it necessarily, but it'll be fine. And then, like, I'm just. You start kind of rolling with it. Like, I. That was at least my experience of failing. And failing miserable is like, well, I mean, I've also come back pretty well. So let's just see what happens.
[19:25] Jillian Anderson: Yeah, let's just see what the next.
[19:27] Aleya Harris: Step holds in front of us. Absolutely. So, however, I will say when I look back into the reasons why I failed, it was. I think there were some points where I would have blamed things outside of my control, but a lot of it was because of my limiting beliefs. A lot of it was because I put myself out, quote, unquote, put myself out there, but not really. Or I priced something, but it wasn't really the right price, or I worked really, really, really hard because I wasn't trusting that it would come, and I sabotaged myself. So what are some of those limiting beliefs that you've held that have given you those moments where things have worked on you and maybe not for you? And how have you overcome them? Or tell us a story maybe about how you overcame them to make another transition, I guess, in your life?
[20:25] Jillian Anderson: Sure. So I think my biggest limiting belief and the most recent one is I don't have capacity for that. I don't have capacity. I don't have space. I don't have capacity. I can't handle that. It's kind of like this ongoing desire to remain comfortable that masquerades in this. I don't have capacity. I don't have space. And I think that the way that I'm working with that right now is to just push my comfort zone. And I know that sometimes we need to be kind to ourselves and listen to the voice or the belief and give it space. And other times we need to be like, you need to stop chiming in, like, thanks for your 2 cents, but I'm going to move forward now. So I am constantly reminding myself, you know, what if you did have capacity? What if you do have capacity? What if there is enough space? What if you'll figure it out? If it gets overwhelming, what if you'll figure it out if you don't like your schedule, what if you'll figure. How you'll figure it out? You will figure it out. And you can always rearrange and make changes. Why not push the boundary or the. I'm not going to say the boundary. Why not push the limit a little bit here?
[21:39] Aleya Harris: I love that. I love that. That's Such a healthy relationship with your limiting beliefs or soon to be non limiting beliefs. Right. As we continue to grow, to grow through them, to grow past them. So you are a writer, storyteller, a copywriter. If you were to think though, with all of the things that you've learned and grown through about the story that you want people to tell about you when you're gone, what would that story be?
[22:08] Jillian Anderson: This is such an interesting question that I have been thinking about a lot. And the story they're going to tell is that she worked hard. I know it. I already know it. They're going to say she worked hard, she was relentless, she never gave up. And is that the story I want them to tell? I think I want them to tell a different story. I think I want them to say, mom always listened. Mom was always there to listen. And so like a lot of entrepreneurial women, I have this thing going on where I am one, I'm one way, I can get very focused, I can be very driven. And home life requires a softer version of me. It requires that I like shake that, drive off a little bit, that I come down into dinner mode and that I'm present with the conversation and that I remember I don't have to sprint right now, I'm with my family. Whatever my 10 year old is telling me about the Lego thing he did is important. And I ha. You know, I want them to, I want them to remember me for listening.
[23:20] Aleya Harris: I think that's beautiful and so succinct. And I think that the best, most succinct, most elegant things to be remembered for are often the easiest things for people to tell the story of when you're not there. And from being remembered to being a good listener, someone who prioritizes their family as an amazing thing to be remembered for. And it's also a really good quality that I'm sure you employ with your clients as a copywriter because you have to when you're writing sales copy, especially for, you know, motherhood inspired brands. So why, in addition to you being a good listener, why should someone decide to work with you as a brand, as a copywriter now, knowing all of the juicy wonderfulness that you've told us.
[24:06] Jillian Anderson: Yeah. So there are two reasons really why someone would choose me and why I actually do feel genuinely that I stand out. And I think that's because I had 8 plus years experience in digital marketing before becoming a copywriter, including having built a successful coaching business to six figures annually, which my goal was obviously to keep going with that. But I Transitioned into copywriting, and I had a substantial change of my business model. And so I have. I have substantial experience selling everything from low ticket to middle tier to high ticket. I have substantial experience with Evergreen with live launches. I have a level of direction and strategy that a lot of entry level copywriters just don't have. And anybody can take a quick 6 week, 8 week copywriter course and say, like, hey, I'm a copywriter for hire. You know, that's not what I'm doing over here. I'm standing on kind of a small mountain of experience. And so I bring that to the table and I love to showcase it because it's the truth that's honest. You know, the other reason why someone would choose me is likely because of my background as a holistic health practitioner before coming online. So I have a lot of connections in the holistic motherhood space and, you know, just a lot of familiar. I'm familiar with the industry's landscape. I'm familiar with the trends in that arena, and so I can also bring that to the table.
[25:43] Aleya Harris: Well, it sounds like you're bringing a lot to the table. I'm. I'm a copywriter in my background now. I do strategy work, and I'm just kind of like, well, shoot, I'd hire her. And if you're listening, I mean, especially if you're in a motherhood inspired brand, I think that you should hire her. But, you know, who am I? Just a marker. 15 years of experience who hires copywriters all the time. But, you know, whatever, whatever. Don't just ignore me. Like, I don't know nothing. No, please don't ignore me. Please go and hire Jillian. Thank you so much. Jillian. If they want to go hire you, how could they do that?
[26:14] Jillian Anderson: Well, I'm over@wweandash anderson.com and you can go, you know, read a little bit more there and there's a button to, you know, take next steps and you can obviously, you know, take a look around. And everybody comes to me needing different things. And so I'd be excited to hear what you need, what you're working on.
[26:34] Aleya Harris: Fabulous. Well, thank you so much for joining us here on the Flourishing entrepreneur podcast today. Jillian, it has been a pleasure. I love hearing your story. I love rooting around in your brain. Thank you for letting me do it, and I hope you have a wonderful rest of your day.
[26:49] Jillian Anderson: Thank you so much for having me on Alaya, like, total honor. Totally have been looking forward to this so much, and I really appreciate the plug there. Thank you you're welcome.
[27:02] Aleya Harris: Talking with Jillian was such a joy, right? If you are a mom, know a mom about to be a mom, about to be a partner of someone with a mom that's going to be a mom. I think that this episode of this conversation hopefully gave you a little bit of a better and deeper understanding of transition and transformation and how TR that affects lots and lots of areas of our lives when it comes to how we see ourselves and how we relate to the world. One of the things that I particularly enjoyed about this conversation is that it kept building the layers on top of the layers. Understanding how one transition and one key learning built onto the next key learning built on the ability to understand yourself, understand others, understand purpose. And if you, no matter if it's motherhood or not, are going through some type of crisis, some type of change, and you haven't found the lesson yet, I encourage you to take time to pause. Because the crisis and the change, the catalyst for that change, is worthless unless you can see the power that it is giving you. And that power comes through knowledge. That power comes through realizing things are always working up for your highest good and understanding what that means in that situation. Even my postpartum depression was working out for my highest good, even though it definitely did not feel it at the time. So I encourage you, no matter what's going on in your life, to take a pause today and say, how is this helping me? What lessons am I gaining from this? How am I using this to shape my identity, to shape who I want to be and how I want to show up in the world and how I want other people to remember me? Just a thought. You can take it or leave it, but I encourage you to take it. All right, as always, this is the Flourishing Entrepreneur podcast and my name is Aleyah Harris and I am thrilled that you joined me and Julian here today, sending you lots of love, light and abundant. Bye for now.
[29:13] Yuliya Patsay: Thank you for listening to this episode of the Flourishing Entrepreneur Podcast with Aleya Harris. Vibing with what you hear, leave a five star review to spread the love and be sure to click subscribe. We wish you love, light and abundance. See you next time.
